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Severn to Venables Connection

Louisa Severn  1893. 

 

She married Thomas Venables, a miner also of Mexborough on Christmas Day 1913. Tommy's father was David Venables, described as a Dataller. They were married at the Mexborough Parish Church. The marriage was witnessed by George Venables and Louisa's sister Ada Severn (Ed: my grandmother) . At the time of their

marriage Louisa was 20 and Tommy 25 years of age, He eventually retired from the pit suffering bad health and then worked for Bakers and Bessers. He died of a heart attack in March 1953 and is buried at Mexborough Cemetary.

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Louisa died 8:20am on the 7 Oct 1971 and was buried in Mexborough Cemetary on the 11 Oct.

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Thomas and Louisa had ten children.

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Thomas Venables born 4 June 1914

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George Venables 4 January 1916

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Joseph Venables born 27 December 1916

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Louisa Venables born 27 December 1918

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Myra Venables born 9 April 1919

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Bessie Venables born 10 May 1921

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Nellie Venables born 31 January 1923

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Mary Venables born 31 January 1926

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Ada Venables born 19 December 1927

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Edith Venables born 13 September 1932

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Thomas Venables 1924 - 1993

Thomas Venables (Tommy) born 4 June 1924 at 14 Crossgate and baptised at Doncaster Road United Methodist Chapel on 29 June 1914. Tommy married Mary Towey on 29th July 1950. Mary was b 1920.  Tommy suffered from leukemia and died in March 1993​

Family stories: 

Diane – "Dad was in the army towards the end of the war. He was in Egypt and guarded German prisoners. Doesn't look like security was too strict there!!

 

Mary was a welder on Churchill Tanks at a place in Chapletown. We took her to look at one and she could point out the area on it that she used to work.  I remember dad saying when they were babies they slept in a drawer, which was probably true of most poor families. Also, he shared clogs with the girls and they didn’t have enough pairs for them all so if one of the others was using them he couldn’t always go to school.​

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Edith – "I remember Tom had to go through the girls’ bedroom to get to the boys’ bedroom.  He used to “blow off” on his way through!"

 

Tommy and Mary had twins:

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Diane Venables trained as a dental nurse and worked as a classroom support worker. Diane married Michael Maddox, an art and ceramics teacher (11-16 year olds). He has his own pottery workshop. He also teaches music (piano/recorder) and sings in a local choir.

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Daniel Maddox bc 1982 plays cornet and guitar, and  studied music.

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Zoe Maddox bc 1985 dances ballet and tap. She plays the flute and piano and likes to sing.

 

Raymond Venables No further information known.

L-R: Gillian and her dad Tommy

Donated by Jessie

L-R: Tommy, Edith, Mary, Joe, Jessie

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George Venables 1916 - 1987

George "Georgie" Venables born 4 January 1916, baptised 30 January 1916 at Doncaster Road United Methodist Chapel. He started work on the London North Eastern Railways as a railway checker and lived at 14 Crossgate, Mexborough. 

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I am very grateful to the Venables Family Facebook, Chris Brook,  Gillian and Martin Hudson. Their recollection if talks with George have added to this story. More information can be found on the Venables Blog.

 

During the Second World War, on 13 Feb 1941, Georgie joined the Royal Navy (number 261490).   Georgie served on board three ships, all of which were torpedoed - we have the date of one of these bombing as 29 May 1942, but don't know which ship. Georgie joined the crew of HMT Horatio on 14 Sep 1942.

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The HMT Horatio (T153) was not a Motor Torpedo Boat (MTB), but rather a British Shakespearian-class naval trawler that served as a minesweeper during World War II. Temporary Acting Lieutenant Commander Charles Robertson took command on 24 Jan but apparently was killed in an accident only four days later.  Command was taken up by Acting Lieutenant Commander Henry Silvester Warren on 20 Feb 1941. Around April of the same year, Horatio received a new commanding officer, Temporary Lieutenant Charles Alfred Lemkey, who was to remain the trawler's captain for remainder of its career. The trawler took part in a number of convoys during World War II. It is closely associated with MTBs because it was torpedoed and sunk by a German motor torpedo boat (Schnellboot / S-boat) named S-58.

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​On 7 July 1942, Leading Seaman William Harold Leon Simpson RNPS was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal for "courage and steadfastness in beating off an attack on H.M.T. Horatio by two groups of three enemy aircraft, destroying one aircraft and seriously damaging another.

 

On 7 Jan 1943 While conducting minesweeping and patrol duties during the North African campaign, the trawler was ambushed and torpedoed by the German S-boat S-58 off Cap de Garde, near Bône, Algeria. The attack was devastatingly swift; out of the entire crew, only two crew members survived (Stephen Hooper and George Venables). They were rescued from the water and taken as prisoners of war by the German.[1} He was wounded in the head and leg.

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We are grateful for family recollections - this from Ian, his grandson:  "I was born in 1943 when Uncle George was missing in action. I cannot imagine what his close family felt throughout this time. Anyway Mum told me I was blessed with George as one of my Christian names out of love/respect/remembrance. I do owe Uncle George more than being blessed with his name but I will return to this."

 

"As I was also told, whether at the same time as the above I am not sure, although I suspect at a later date these facts as with respect to George and his war. There was always a great reluctance to discuss the war years, they probably just wanted to forget the horrors. Uncle George was sunk three times but Mum said on the last occasion he was the only survivor and that he had said that this was due entirely to him taking over the ‘crows nest’ duty of a friend who was sick. The ship was struck by torpedoes which must have hit the ammunition and the ship exploded beneath him. By good fortune he had ignored regulations and not fastened the harness, if he had he said he would have gone down with the ship. My Mum became rather emotional when she told to me her older brother had said at this point he believed he was going to drown but then he saw/imagined, you choose, the faces of his 6 Sisters in the waves. Thereafter he was picked up by a U boat and ultimately deposited in Italy.".

 

Below:  This is a copy of the ex-prisoner-of-war questionnaire that he had to fill out on his return to the UK after the war.  .​​

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Research on these camp has revealed that Campo 66 (often referred to as Camp 66) was an Italian prisoner-of-war and transit camp located in Capua, Italy, Near Naples.  It was operated primarily as a major transit and holding camp for Allied prisoners of war (including British, South African, New Zealand, and American troops) captured during the North African campaign. When he was recovered he was added to the work gangs and they 

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Camp 52 was another holding camp, little of it remains today. But in the spring of 1943 the prisoners were marched north towards Poland and Germany and ended up at Stalag VIIIB - also known as Königshütte - it was later renamed Stalag 344. {2}.  Under the Geneva Convention, lower-ranking POWs could be forced to work as long as it wasn't directly dangerous or part of the immediate war effort (though this line was frequently blurred). In Königshütte, they were deployed to the local coal mines, heavy industries, and infrastructure networks.  Poor Georgie, joined up for a life on the ocean wave, and here he was, back with railways and coal mining!!

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From April 1944, Georgie was deployed to the Arbeitskommando (Working Party) E749 located at Peiskretscham (now Pyskowice, Poland). E749 typically held a contingent of around 180 to 200 British and Canadian prisoners. The "E" prefix designated an English-speaking camp. Prisoners here were forced into brutal, back-breaking manual labour for the Deutsche Reichsbahn (German Reich Railway). Venables's daily life would have consisted of using picks and shovels to excavate ground for bridges and tunnels, laying down heavy steel tracks, and unloading immense amounts of gravel and cement. 

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Like most prisoners in Upper Silesia, Georgis time at Peiskretscham came to a sudden and harsh end in January 1945. As the Soviet Red Army advanced rapidly from the east, the German military evacuated the sub-camps. Georgie and his fellow prisoners were forced out into the sub-zero winter temperatures on what became known as the "Long March" or "Death March" westward into Germany. The prisoners (up tom 80,000 of them)  marched hundreds of miles under-clothed and starving before eventually being liberated by Western Allied forces (typically American or British troops) in April or May 1945 as the war ended.  A very good description can be found here on Wikipedia, {3}

 

Upon his return to England, and an extended stay in hospital he was posted to HMS Victory (the shore based headquarters of the RN.  Some of the questions he was asked in his debrief included:

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  • were you lectured in your unit on how to behave in the event if capture?                                            NO

  • were you specially interrogated by the enemy?                                        FERRYVILLE, Tunis, indirect questions

  • ESCAPES ATTEMPTED. Did you make any attempted or partly successful escapes?                       N/A

  • SABOTAGE: Did you do any sabotage or destruction of enemy plant, war material, communications.                      when employed on working parties or during escape?                                                                         N/A

  • COLLABORATION: Do you know only British or American personnel who collaborated with the enemy,                  or in any way helped the enemy against other allied prisoners of war?                                                N/A

 

A book containing his story has been written but is now lost - however if that book was published it shouldn't be difficult to obtain. Enquiries are currently underway.  

Long March: The Real Story Behind WW2's Most Harrowing March

Georgie was a living part of this history. Click to play the video

it must have seemed like miracle getting home, and her must have spent time in hospital. But he recovered. Gillian said that Georgie didn't talk much about the war, but did open up to Gillian, his daughter's husband, Martin.  

 

Martin reported that he, Georgie, was on three separate ships, all of which were torpedoed. One of these ships was HMS Shirley.  He ended up as a Prisoner of War in Italy where they were made to walk miles daily and were starving. George helped to hold up / carry fellow prisoners to prevent them being shot. He escaped out to local farms to steal chickens, eggs etc so they could all eat. If caught, he would have been shot but the alternative was to starve. One time, they were so desperate they killed mice and rats to eat. They cooked up a stew but didn’t tell the others what they had eaten until afterwards! Gillian confirmed that during this time Nan did receive a letter informing her that George was missing, presumed dead.

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George said that he eventually managed to escape, but then realised, when speaking to local farmers, that the war was actually over!  On returning home George would found it hard to eat a proper meal having been starved for so long.

 

Uncle Bill told Gillian that George was a really hard man, even though he always seemed lovely and soft to Gillian.

He wouldn’t have anything to do with Italians who lived around the Mexborough area on his return.

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More information here {5}

Other family members recollections of George include:

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Diane (Tom’s daughter) – "On his return, George walked straight past his family house (they already knew he was safe) and went to see his pal who lived next door. . . Dad said that was typical of George (and is also my brother is just like that!)."

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Janet (Nellie’s daughter) – "Mum used to tell us story about Uncle George. She thought he was rescued twice from torpedo attacks and was the sole survivor on one ship! It’s an amazing story, and impossible to imagine what he went through. No wonder they wanted to forget those times."

Edith – "When Dad found out George was safe, he put flags out of the windows."

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Ian -  "Also he apparently would say nothing to her with regard to his time as a prisoner other than the Italians were brutal and he hated them. There was no further detail apart from Mum saying there was an incident in Mexborough High Street where not long after the war Uncle George heard three Italians in the street and he crossed over and attacked them. This may be verifiable. I wish I could remember properly but I have this nagging thought that Uncle Tommy confirmed this fact although it could quite easily have been Grandma Venables. Memory!!!! There is reference to George Venables in a history book of the war years with regard to one of the ships that was sunk but I cannot recall any detail other than it was in connection with some High Ranking persons memoirs or the like. I did try to research once, failed. I believe I remembered this as Mum said he is the only family member to have their name in a book!!   This is what I remember of conversations with Mum regarding our Uncle George."

 

I" did say I would return to my blessed namesake Uncle George and the debt I owed him. There was an incident when the family lived together in Mexborough, I am trying to remember desperately the address number 2 or 5 something Gate??? no matter.  Grandma Venables asked George to go down the cellar to fill the coal scuttle and his response is classic. I can imagine hearing him say it in his Yorkshire accent ‘ never, not while there’s lassies in t’ house’. Both Aunties Nellie and Bessie confirmed this happened and that this did really help my Mum to decide to leave home at the age of 14 as she could see a life of ‘service’ becoming a major part of her future. I couldn’t stop laughing and even today remember it fondly. It must have been of a fairly serious concern to have a Yorkshire Lass leave home and move to Lancashire!!! I am of course eternally grateful to Uncle George as, if this did help my Mother decide to go, without it I would not be writing this now!!

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I" cannot at the moment recall anything more but I do have some great memories of my Uncles George, Joe, Tommy and Alan and a drink or two in the Miners Men’s clubs at lunchtime, but that’s another story."

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Georgie married Edith Kropper

(born 31 August 1820) on 14 March 1953 and, sadly,  they had a child who died.  And then a daughter,  

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Gillian Venables born 26 September 1957 married Martin Hudson.

Gillian and Martin live in Bramley and have two children:

Adam Hudson

Katy Hudson

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George had a heart attack aged 46 or 47 . . doctor said due to thrombosis which could have been caused by him being in the sea for so long. He died 8 Aug. 1987 and is buried in St Margaret Churchyard, Swinton.

 

Gillian has a copy of a book dedicated to George – she got this through a friend of George’s who lived near Jessie. Also talked about this friend mentioning records at Somerset House about George being the only survivor on HMS Shirley.

Joseph Venables 1916 - 1994

Joe Venables b 27 December 1916 at 18 Milton Street, Denaby and baptised 30 January 1917 at Doncaster Road United Methodist Chapel. Joe was in the pit after leaving school, but left to work in a glassworks factory.

 

In February 1939 he joined the Irish Guards and served with them throughout the War. He rose through the ranks to become a tank commander and in the process had 4 tanks shot out from under him. He was back in France 4 days after D-Day through the Normandy landings and was injured at Nuremburg (he damaged his finger) and this was when he first saw the wonder drug penicillin being used and recalls that it was preciously guarded. After the war he was demobbed in February 1945 and went on a building course learning to become a bricklayer.His son, Malcolm, recalls some conversations with his dad:

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"I read with interest about George. I agree very little was said about the experiences they had during the war years.  Dad would occasionally reminisce after a whisky or two with his peer group. Joe was actually mentioned in a book as well – “History of the Irish Guards”. He was on active service in Normandy. It stated, “On the extreme left , Squadron Sergeant-Major Parkes and Lance-Sergeant Venables fought an engagement with a Panther and eventually destroyed it.  His only other claim to fame, I remember him telling me once,  was that he knocked down a lamp post or telegraph pole with his tank , and narrowly avoided a court marshal!!

 

Joe had 2 years service with a builder but packed it in 2 months before finishing his course. He rejoined Dale and Brown Glassworks, then moved on to ICI at Denaby working as a boilerman.

 

Joe met Jessie Holbrook, his future wife at the Empress Dance Hall during the War, whilst on leave. She was born 27 August 1921 and they were married 18 September 1943. Jessie's father was a slater. I thank her for the information she supplied here and for allowing me to copy her photographs, without which this section would have been a great deal thinner.  When Joe was 40, he had a medical checkup and he was diagnosed diabetic. However he stayed with ICI until it closed down and then worked for GEC/Murphy Richards and retired as an inspector.

Joe died 24th January 1994. Jessie was living in Hawes Close when I visited her.

 

Their children:

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David Venables eldest son of Joe and Jessie was born 11 June 1947. David left school aged 16 and went down the pit, but joined a scheme whereby he was in the pit for 6 months and at college for the other 6 months. He had a number of jobs but continued his studies, gaining an Honours Degree with the Open University whilst working at Maltby. He has lectured for the OU and became a consultant engineer in Rotherham.  David married Sheila Whalley (b 1967). Their children are:

 

Susan Venables b 1971

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Julie Venables b 1972 and married to Shaun Oakes.

Issue:

male Oakes born circa 1996/7

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Malcolm Venables, second son of Joe and Jessie was born 6 February 1951. Although a polio victim, Malcolm always knew he wanted to be in the scientific field. After leaving school he worked as a lab technician, then attended Sheffield University and completed 6 years to become a General Practice doctor. He now operates from a modern surgery in Swinton. Malcolm married Gill Beecher born 6 February 1951 who is kept busy as a community midwife.  Malcolm and Gill have two children:

 

Simon Venables b 1978 currently studying Art and Design at University

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Julie Venables b Nov 1979

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Patricia Venables, 3rd child of Joe and Jessie was b 1960 and worked in a solicitor's office, studying part-time at Rockingham College. She met and married married Stevan Collindridge and they have

in Lytham St Annes and have issue:

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Kimberley Collindridge 

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Lindsey Collindridge 

Louisa Venables 1918 - 

Louisa Venables 4th child of Tommy Venables and Louis Severn  born 11 Mar 1918, married William "Bill" 

Pendlebury b 24 Jan 1916. At the time of their marriage, Bill was a petty officer in the Royal Navy.  Louie lived in St. Annes on Sea in Lancashire. She died 25 Nov 2003.   Children:

 

Ian Pendlebury b 3 Jul 1943 married Doreen Wilkinson Apr 1967 Manchester. Issue:

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Katherine Pendlebury

Clare Pendlebury

Laura Pendlebury

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Barry Pendlebury  b 26 Sep 1944 married Carol A Ferns. Issue:

Helen Pendlebury

Andrew Pendlebury

Louie and Bill wedding day 13 Jan 1941 St. John the Baptist

L-R Bessie; Joe; Bill; Louie; Tom; Nellie Donated by the Venables Family Facebook group

Myra Venables 1919 - 1990

Myra Venables 5th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn b 9th April 1919 at Crossgate, baptised at Doncaster Road United methodist Chapel 9 April 1919. Myra married George Burton on

1 Jan 1943. Myra died 23rd Feb 1990 in Hereford. George died 21 Oct 1994. Myra died 23 February 1990 Issue:

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Geraldine Burton b 8 Aug 1948 married John Tierney. Issue:

Ryan Tierney

Sean Tierney

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Graham Burton b 3 Nov 1950 married Francesca. Issue:

David Burton

Matthew Burton

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Elizabeth "Bessie" Venables 1921 - 

Bessie Venables 6th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn born 10 May 1921, married to Bill Case  and had two children

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Brian Case b 31 Jul 1948

 

Alan Case b 5. Apr 1952

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L-R: Joe, Jessie, Louie, Bessie, Bill Case

Donated by Jessie Venables

Nellie Venables 

Nellie Venables 7th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn born 31 Jan 1923, married to Stanley Booth 24

Feb 1949 and had issue:

Janet Booth

Maureen Booth married Gary Eastwood

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Wedding of Nellie & Stan 24 February 1949

L - R: Edith, George Cope,Stan Booth, Nellie Venables, Rev Roy Booth. Joe Venables, Moira Johnson

Donated by Edith and Alan Brook

Thank goodness for family stories. Thanks to:

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Janet – "Dad only briefly talked about his war experience. He was hospitalised a long time as he picked up a skin infection… He was posted in the army medical corps and he said they followed the front line picking up the dead and injured.  Must have been horrific."

 

"Mum worked in the civil service ‘food office’ dishing out school coupons during the war. She had a few stories about her experiences there. She said people would try any tactics to get a bar of chocolate.

 

Edith – "Nellie was like a 2nd mother to me.  She took me all over.  I remember when she managed to get me into the pictures for half-price when I should have paid full.  She was boasting about this in the toilet but the conversation was overheard and Nellie and I got into trouble.   Nellie used to work at a little shop on Crossgate – she used to let me have some buns for free.  Stan and Nellie had a newsagent shop and they also had a TV – they were quite well off.  Stan used to “knock about” with Joe – this is how he met Nellie.  They moved to Blackpool for better air, as one of the daughters had a bad chest.  They sold the newsagent and Stan went on the trams, but he didn’t like it."

Mary Venables

Mary Venables 8th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn b 31 Jan 1926 at 14 Crossgate, baptised at

Doncaster Road United Methodists Chapel on 31 January 1926. Mary married John Monaghan on 17 April 1948. They did not have any children.

Ada Venables

Ada Venables 8th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn b 19 Dec 1927, married Harry Newey on 1 April 1950. Edith remembers going carol singing with Ada and their friend, Margaret Parkes.  Ada worked in the COOP, a grocery shop. She was very good at adding bills up.  Edith thinks Ada may have had a council house before moving to Broadway Close, Swinton. Harry died in May 1987. Harry and Ada had one child:

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Vivien Elaine Newey who married James Steemson. Vivien died in July 1990.Vivien and Robert had two children

Eleanor Rose Steemson b 1986. Eleanor has inherited the musical talent and has played the violin since the age of 7

Guy Robert Steemson 1990

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Ada lived in Wetherby and was helping to look after her grandchildren when I met her.

Vivien & Robert

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Eleanor & Guy Donated by Ada Newey

Harry Newey

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Ada Newey and her sister Edith Brook. Donated by Ada Newey

Edith Venables 1932

Edith Venables 8th child of Tommy Venables and Louisa Severn b 13 Sep 1932, baptised 9 Oct 1932 at Doncaster Road United Methodists Chapel.  Edith went to Pitt Street School (Infants), then Doncaster Road (Juniors) and finally Adwick Road.  Her dad encouraged her to learn shorthand and to type, whilst still at school.  Nellie helped her to get a job at the “Food Office” in Mexborough – issuing rations. She worked at the Danish Bacon company on West Street (?) before moving to their offices on Carlisle Street, Kilnhurst.  She travelled there by “trackless”.

 

She married Alan Brook, a train driver 19 Dec 1953. They bought 14 Crossgate (the family’s home), which up to that point had been rented. Edith’s mum, Louisa, lived with them for the rest of her life (18 more years). In 1959 they joined a self-build scheme to build 18 houses on Piccadilly Road, Swinton.  The build took two and a half years and involved all 18 men working together to build all the houses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Alan and Edith Brook  had two children:

 

Simon Brook born 1967, a lawyer

 

Chris Brook born 1971, currently a primary school teacher Primary School. He trained at Nottingham University and is a sports enthusiast. Chris and his girlfriend Judith spent 1999 in Melbourne, Australia on a teacher exchange program. They spent every available moment of their spare time travelling the country and New Zealand.

 

Pamela and I were very pleased they made a special journey to the Northern Territory to visit us - a round trip of about 10,000 kilometres. I was teaching in outback Tennant Creek, but managed to get enough time off to show them around a gold mine and visit the Devils Marbles. It was the coldest Winter for some years and Judith suffered from flu on the whole trip.

 

Thanks to Edith and Alan for their hospitality to me and my family during our holiday in England in 1997 and for supplying many of the photographs in this publication.

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From Ian – I remember your Mum from being a young child she used to come and stay to help my Mum with the terrible two’s, my brother and me. However the tale I want to tell you concerns your Mum & Dad and in fact I can’t stop laughing now. You Mum hopefully will remember!!!

It concerns your Mum & Dads’ wedding night. They unfortunately decided to stay at our home at 17 Russell Street, Prestwich for their first night on their way to Blackpool I think, for their honeymoon. Mistake!!!

I am sure there was many more incidents throughout their stay than these but I cannot recall any more detail. My father was a bit of a joker, my Mum did her best!! What he certainly did was rig the bed and the toilet seat (there were others but I just cannot remember) so as when one got into bed or sat on the toilet the front door bell rang. The clever bit for the bed was that when your Mum got in nothing happened but when your Dad joined her the front door bell rang. Apparently your Dad was up most of the night trying to disconnect the wires. There were many runners there wasn’t just which was the live one!!!

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Edith and Alan Brook donated by the Venables family Facebook group

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A veritable gathering of Venables - Back L-R: Malcolm, Jill, David, Simon, Shaun, Joe, Pat, Steve

Front L-R: Matt, Sheila, Julie, Jessie, Susan, Linsey, Kimberley

Donated by Jessie Newey

Sep 2026 Names in brackets are the forebears:  L- R Simon Brook (Edith); Noel Morgan, Gillian Morgan; Susan Grange (Brook family); Chris Brook (Edith), Edith Brook; Diane (Tommy) with her granddaughter Edith, (Zoe, Diane's daughter), Steve (Diane's husband), Harry Hoult (Brook family), and his wife Brenda, Malc Venables (Joe) and his wife Jill. 

 

Christopher Dixon

16 Lachlan Avenue, Nambour, Qld 4560, Australia

cjadixon@mac.com

 

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